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12-15-2009 6:52 PM by criminolelawyer. 18 replies.
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RyanDJ Posted: 11-13-2009 6:40 AM

This topic isn't meant to start a flame war; I've just been thinking lately about the future of music. These days, there are college classes dedicated to Beethoven, Bach....what's called "classical" music. While it's not on the Top 40 or anything these days, that music has had lasting power, and has easily stood the test of time. Even if one hates classical, they can usually appreciate the work that went behind making such music. And centuries from now, they will probably still be having those classes, studying such music.

What about the current generation of music? Even any back to the time that even the oldest person on the forum was young? Is there anything out there that will stand the test of time? It just popped into my head that I doubt we will ever have "Britney 101" or cultural dissertations on the terminology of the word "fergilicious". I think in today's fast-paced society, it's getting hard to find what music that will truly stand the test of time.

I'm not asking your favorite band....I'm asking in like 600 years, will anyone be listening to anything by any artist of any recent generation? Or will it all be lost to the winds? Do you think there are any current artists that will have "epic" music that will land in classical territory? And what do you think five generations from now will be saying about our music culture?

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Music is a form of art, and like all art, there are masters from many different genres that will be remembered for many years to come. You could put Beethoven and Mozart in the same pool as Da Vinci and Michaelangelo. They all created art that has lasted hundreds of years and is recognized as being on a level unsurpassable by others.

But, what we call "classical music" is basically a reference to a particular period of time during which that music was created. It's a three to four hundred year period called the "golden age" of classical music. During that period there were many different types of music, just as we have today.

I think maybe this was called the "Golden Age" because of the sheer number of legendary composers that were around during that time. I don't think it had anything to do with that particular time, meaning, only people born during that time could become legendary composers, I think it was more like, it happened that there were one or two geniuses, and a significant number of other skilled composers that had the opportunity to learn from and be inspired directly by those geniuses. As time passed and the "root" geniuses died, new composers had "less genius" to learn from directly and the period slowly came to a close.

You could say the same thing about artists like Raphael. He worked with Da Vinci and was influenced by him quite a bit. He also worked with Michaelangelo a bit (although Michaelangelo was a bit of a jerk to both him and Da Vinci, and didn't really get along with either of them), but you can still see much of their work reflected in some of the others'.

I think that over time, you might see a "pop era" arise comprising the many different genres of pop music. Just like you have different movements within the field of art, each with their own respective master artists. I don't think that corporation backed musicians will see much rememberance over time because it's not that status quo that we remember in history. It's the ones that take their field to a new level. The improvisors and creators of genres are the ones that live on in memory.

You can already see this in music as early as 30-50 years ago, with what we now call classic rock. Would anyone argue that The Beetles didn't change the entire course of rock music? There's already a "Golden Age" of rock music for the late 60's and early 70's.

 

So definitely, there will be people recognized in the future as masters of their music. Who they are right now, I don't know. But they're the musicians that are innovating and defining their genre.

 

Also, who can deny the lasting appeal of

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Led Zeppelin and a few others will likely stand the test of time. Most of the genres though wont have any place in history, IMO. Personally I love hip hop and Im hoping the true artists like Mos Def, KRS One, Rakim and others will have their place in history. I know they will with me, but I doubt they will with most.

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TOOL Aenema will be listened to for a long time. It's complex and artistic

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Faith No More was pretty Epic.

*rimshot*

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Maskim:

Faith No More was pretty Epic.

*rimshot*

Loved that song...I guess for the mainstream, they are a one hit wonder.

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Maskim:

Faith No More was pretty Epic.

*rimshot*

I see what you did there.

Honestly, I don't expect very much of the current generation of music to be talked about, five generations from now. I think the music that has already stood the test of time - or that directly influenced modern music as we know it - will continue to have a place in history. I would guess that 99% of what we "currently" listen to will be forgotten.

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Maskim:

Faith No More was pretty Epic.

*rimshot*

Loved that song...I guess for the mainstream, they are a one hit wonder.

I don't think you can call them a one hit wonder when each album to follow The Real Thing also received plenty of air time, acclaim, and sold well.

Epic is a great song, but I think that Ashes to Ashes and Stripsearch are still my favorite two songs they ever did.

Just because they're not still played consistently 15-20 years later doesn't mean they weren't a great success.  Anthraxx, for instance, although rarely heard anymore, still has one of the highest rated albums by Rolling Stone ever.

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Epic is a great song, but I think that Ashes to Ashes and Stripsearch are still my favorite two songs they ever did.

Wow, I thought I was the only one who listened the crap out of "Album of the Year"...Still one of my favorites ever.

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Maskim:

Faith No More was pretty Epic.

*rimshot*

what is it?

*rimshot*

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Maskim:

Faith No More was pretty Epic.

*rimshot*

what is it?

*rimshot*

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If future generations will still be listening to soulja boy then the world become doomed

 

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Is the sheer amount of choices we have causing us to be more fickle than people were back then? Before 50 years ago, the only thing people had to play with were rocks and pogo sticks.  Look what we have today. 

There are still some great songs that have come out of the pre 80's era (the best era imho) that are still popular or that people have still heard of.  At last (etta james), boogy woogy bugle boy, beatles, My bologna.  There will be some songs that stand the test of time, though I agree most of the stuff released nowadays is just horrible.  I think the newer generation is too "that's so yesturday" to really have anything of lasting value, though.

Now, just to be cruel, I want to try to get a song stuck in your heads...

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Is the sheer amount of choices we have causing us to be more fickle than people were back then? Before 50 years ago, the only thing people had to play with were rocks and pogo sticks.  Look what we have today. 

There are still some great songs that have come out of the pre 80's era (the best era imho) that are still popular or that people have still heard of.  At last (etta james), boogy woogy bugle boy, beatles, My bologna.  There will be some songs that stand the test of time, though I agree most of the stuff released nowadays is just horrible.  I think the newer generation is too "that's so yesturday" to really have anything of lasting value, though.

Now, just to be cruel, I want to try to get a song stuck in your heads...

Literally just seeing the Video Title without actually watching the video got that song stuck in my head

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The song Panama is more of a public service than being cruel.

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