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02-11-2010 11:48 PM by Maskim. 52 replies.
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Neko Tech replied on 02-11-2010 12:27 AM | Locked

The thing is that the seller didn't even try to resolve the matter and it could have been a misunderstanding but didn't PM the buyer or anything from the looks of it.

I heard this mishap from when I was playing online last night (from my timezone).

If it were me then I wouldn't mind nor care but any good trader in this type of circumstance would have PM'd the buyer on the details before initiating the trade.

I don't know if the seller were trying to cheat the system to get the bonus points but I do sympathize with him that special edition/CE is hard to sell game (complete minus the bonus stuff) only. I have a Halo 3 LE but I lost the cat helmet when I moved but I still have the game and the bonus DVD complete but the current system would only allow me to put it as disk+manual.

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pcktlnt replied on 02-11-2010 1:17 AM | Locked

Not sure how soon you guys are hoping for an answer. I heard that the East Coast is being hammered by snow. Some of the Maryland goozers have said they had a ton of snow hit their area. I bring this up because Goozex is located in Maryland.

 


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Coras replied on 02-11-2010 1:26 AM | Locked

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The problem, as I see it, is that he is not going to have an easy time sending the game out. YOU sent him the wrong product, a product that didn't offer bonus points, but you sent the incorrect version listed as the bonus point version to make out with the 200 extra points, meanwhile you also kept the extras that came with the game. Not a bad deal if you can get away with it.

Offer the buyer some money to ship the game back to you, and see where that goes. You mislisted the game on purpose, to benefit from the bonus points, it's the only reason to do so. Now, there are fewer games coming out with bonus points. Thanks dude.

Not an attack, but a valid question. Why is the CE eligible for bonus points where as the SE is not? I thought both versions were eligible for the bonus if traded out in a certain timeframe? There were both released on the same day.

If I am wrong, please let me know. I am just a tad confused here.

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kube00 replied on 02-11-2010 9:18 AM | Locked

Hope this works out.  Buyer got what he requested, let's see what Goozex does

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Black Fox Zulu replied on 02-11-2010 9:23 AM | Locked

kube00:
Buyer got what he requested

How did he get what he requested?

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cheeznrice replied on 02-11-2010 9:25 AM | Locked

Coras:
Not an attack, but a valid question. Why is the CE eligible for bonus points where as the SE is not? I thought both versions were eligible for the bonus if traded out in a certain timeframe? There were both released on the same day.

It's reversed, the Standard Edition (which the seller had it listed as) is eligible for bonus points, the Collector's Edition (which the seller shipped) is not eligible for bonus points.

The buyer did everything correct in this situation.  I would have done the exact same thing if I received the incorrect product.  It is nice to see that both parties have made arrangements to put this thing to bed.

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kube00:
Buyer got what he requested

How did he get what he requested?

Exactly, buyer did not get what he requested.  From a CS standpoint it's very straightforward.  Shipping the CE when you have it listed as the SE is shipping the incorrect product.  Just like shipping the SE as the CE is.  Perhaps I can write an exposé for The Goozex Report so the less informed can be educated.

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G-Nitro replied on 02-11-2010 9:31 AM | Locked

People really need to learn what the Goozex rules state. You have the CE edition, you send it as the CE listing for disc only. You have the standard, you send it as the standard edition.

What saddens me is that many regular and veterans still don't understand this. If the discs state collector's edition, they CAN NOT be traded under standard. I love how the misinformed take the OP's side, when they are all wrong. Do some real research, please.

Different editions, different UPCs.

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kube00 replied on 02-11-2010 12:49 PM | Locked

I guess I misread something, too many words.

 

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killmak replied on 02-11-2010 1:29 PM | Locked

G-Nitro:

People really need to learn what the Goozex rules state. You have the CE edition, you send it as the CE listing for disc only. You have the standard, you send it as the standard edition.

Yes but the problem with this is that if you dont include the bonus discs when trading out the CE there are some people that waill give you a negative or neutral.  With Goozex changing the requirements of DO trades so often it almost makes DO collectors editions untradeable.

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G-Nitro replied on 02-11-2010 2:55 PM | Locked

killmak:

G-Nitro:

People really need to learn what the Goozex rules state. You have the CE edition, you send it as the CE listing for disc only. You have the standard, you send it as the standard edition.

Yes but the problem with this is that if you dont include the bonus discs when trading out the CE there are some people that waill give you a negative or neutral.  With Goozex changing the requirements of DO trades so often it almost makes DO collectors editions untradeable.

then you don't trade it. That's not a buyer's fault the seller doesn't have everything.

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TenTonHammer23 replied on 02-11-2010 3:22 PM | Locked

I'm just curious as to how the OP ended up with the game disc only?  I know gamestop has a bad habit of leaving out bonus discs when they want to, but this is a brand new game released a few weeks back, kinda quick to be out a disc.

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vmcintos replied on 02-11-2010 5:40 PM | Locked

 

This isnt really about it being the "wrong game" its not...thats BS.  My opinion is that for DO...Same game content=same game, whether its CE,SE, budget package or whatever. 

But...

The seller sent an untradeable package... for that, he deserves the negative. Even if you wanted to make the argument that CE disk only IS tradeable in practice it really isnt. If someone requests CE instead of SE then they arent likely to request it as DO.  Which brings up the next point. The seller probably mis-listed it because they knew that and they wanted to get the quickest match for a DO...he deserves the negative.  The seller got bonus credit for sending the wrong game...for that he deserves the negative. Even if the OP is telling the truth about why he listed it under the wrong game, IT WASN'T A MISTAKE. He did it on purpose. He saw that what he had was untradeable so he listed under something else that was. That's called a lie. 

 

I think the UPC argument its total BS....this goes back to the whole argument about whether or not budget package games can be considered FP. Even in that thread it was admitted that it was just a loophole to allow you to complain about not get exactly what you wanted. 

In most cases, if both games were the same in terms of actual game content, then I would say that the buyer was full of it. He ordered DO meaning that he didnt really care about the CE vs SE AND the seller sent the better of the two anyway...Yeah he can TECHNICALLY leave a neg but he would really be just gaming the system to get a free game.  But this isnt on of those cases.

 

EDIT: removed my "_ucktard"ed joke.

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TenTonHammer23 replied on 02-11-2010 7:31 PM | Locked

No one is "gaming the system".  If you leave a negative, the seller disputes it, and the game has to be sent to goozex. 

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Maskim replied on 02-11-2010 9:36 PM | Locked

 

As mentioned, he's not keeping the game, he's sending it in to goozex.  He's not snagging a free game at anyone's expense.

The UPC argument is simply if you send something with a different UPC than you agreed to, it's a different item.  That's not total BS.  The only time it can be used as a loophole is for the benefit of honest traders.  You don't have to agree with it, but it's the way it is.  (I'm not going to call anyone out, here, but your joke is "_ucktard"edHmm)

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vmcintos replied on 02-11-2010 10:42 PM | Locked

LOL...its like rubbing a magic lamp...

Maskim:
I'm not going to call anyone out, here, but your joke is "_ucktard"edHmm

Touchy touchy...

Maskim:
The UPC argument is simply if you send something with a different UPC than you agreed to, it's a different item.  That's not total BS. 

It is when the UPCs aren't listed. What if the seller didnt list by UPC, the buyers usually dont request by UPC... The FAQ doesnt even mention that the tradeable version is UPC specific. It only says to verify that FP includes everything that came with retail and to verify using the UPC for that title. What title? The one in my hand...ok my budget title's UPC says its just a jewel case and insert.  

Like I said, this has nothing to do with the OP's post.  I get it though, like I said in the other thread, this is really me playing devils advocate because I would personally agree that you are entitled to get exactly what you request.  But "what you request" is really up for interpretation as long as the seller can list their games by title. If its the same title, then as it stands any version would deserve a positive feedback.  I would LIKE to give a negative if someone sent me budget release instead of original but I would personally see that as feedback abuse so I wouldnt. 

In the case of the OP, its not the same title one is ME2 SE and the other is ME3 CE

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