Too many duplicate movie entries

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StilesCrisis Posted: 11-02-2009 12:48 PM

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Why are there so many entries for the same movie?

There are Checkpoint releases, Movie Cash releases, Canadian releases, etc. etc. All for the exact same disc, just different packaging. Even if you're offering or requesting something disc-only, you still have two or three different listings to choose from. And the point values aren't even consistent between entries!

Note that I'm NOT talking about movies with special editions and regular editions, or movies that have had legitimate re-releases several years down the road with different extras/features/etc. Those are legitimately different products. (e.g. a lot of DVDs have a late-90s release that is non-anamorphic, and a mid-2000's release that IS anamorphic, and there's a huge difference there if you have a 16:9 TV.)

Whenever I request or offer a movie, I have to make multiple entries in my Requests/Offers queue to make sure that I don't lose my place in line.

This isn't a site for hardcore collectors; nobody is going to care whether they get a Canadian packaging or Movie Cash in the box or whatever. These entries should all be collapsed into one.

(In a perfect world, I'd also like a way to request "any edition of this DVD" as one entry in your list, to avoid accidentally matching on two different copies of the same movie at once. But that's probably more work for less benefit.)

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cheeznrice replied on 11-02-2009 12:55 PM

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It's my guess that all these versions have separate UPCs.  I agree with you though, it is extremely annoying and a little confusing.

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StilesCrisis replied on 11-02-2009 12:57 PM

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Surely Goozex must have a way to enter multiple UPCs into one product listing?

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MetroConfidential replied on 11-02-2009 2:40 PM

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Yeah, what strikes me as odd are some movies that show the Unrated and Rated versions. However, one of each version has the words "sensormatic version" in the description. I have no idea what the sensormatic version of a movie is.

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criminolelawyer replied on 11-02-2009 2:44 PM

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and as far as you are concerned sensormatic means absolutely nothing. Its merely a style of security in some dvd cases

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batmania15 replied on 11-02-2009 2:46 PM

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criminolelawyer:

and as far as you are concerned sensormatic means absolutely nothing. Its merely a style of security in some dvd cases

hmmm so does that mean that those sensormatic full versions needs the security device,?  lol

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MetroConfidential replied on 11-02-2009 2:57 PM

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batmania15:

criminolelawyer:

and as far as you are concerned sensormatic means absolutely nothing. Its merely a style of security in some dvd cases

hmmm so does that mean that those sensormatic full versions needs the security device,?  lol

Yeah, my first guess was that Sensormatic security devices were those little gray strips inside cases. I just have no clue why Goozex listed that as a feature of a title for some movies.

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StilesCrisis replied on 11-02-2009 3:34 PM

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Well, it's probably listed separately because it's got a different UPC code.

What I'm saying is, someone needs to go clean up all the duplicate UPCs in the system and combine them into one movie, because the current setup is confusing for newbies and hard to use even when you understand what's going on...

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nightmare452 replied on 11-02-2009 4:04 PM

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Agree, went to look for a movie today and it had 4-5 different showings of the same movie.  Just clicked all of them and selected the newest "release date" and chose that.  A little clean up should be done.

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MetroConfidential replied on 11-02-2009 10:35 PM

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Yeah, and I don't even think it would be overtly difficult, just time consuming and boring

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StilesCrisis replied on 11-02-2009 11:06 PM

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If GoozexCo™ wanted to solve this problem in a hurry, it wouldn't be hard. Just crowdsource it. Allow users to make fixes to the database (of course, a moderator would have to double-check the changes before they would actually be made, but that's way easier than actually finding and fixing the problems). If a user makes 25 good fixes, they get a free token. Voila! The database will be problem-free in a jiffy.

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StilesCrisis replied on 11-02-2009 11:57 PM

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BTW, just for the record, I have seven copies of The Sound Of Music in my requests queue. It takes up over a page. I don't care which edition I get; I just want to replace my wife's VHS copy. :)

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stoudman replied on 11-03-2009 6:08 PM

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StilesCrisis:

This isn't a site for hardcore collectors; nobody is going to care whether they get a Canadian packaging or Movie Cash in the box or whatever. These entries should all be collapsed into one.

I have to respectfully disagree here, just because you are not a hardcore collector does not mean that others on this site are not. There are plenty of people using Goozex who would be upset if they requested full package and did not get the inserts that came with the DVD originally. I doubt anyone cares about movie cash that has no value, and in certain cases there is no difference between some of these releases, but in other cases there can be HUGE differences.

There are still a lot of problems with the movie trading system on Goozex, and it is a new feature so you'll just have to give it time to come around. I have the 4:3 copy of Muppets from Space, but I can't put it on my offers list because the only copy they show as even existing on the Goozex system is some mystical copy that has both 16x9 and 4:3. To my knowledge, no such DVD copy exists -- there is the 4:3 version and the 16x9 version but there is no version that has both on the same disc. Perhaps its for the best, I don't know what I'm going to do with all my 4:3 DVDs I bought on accident, but nobody wants them anymore so whats the point in offering them! LoL.

However, the point of that little story is to establish that while there are many different copies of certain DVDs in the system, other DVDs still have yet to be listed. Lumping them all into one DVD selection would potentially be lumping a lot of DVDs with a lot of minor to major differences together, and would lower the chances of seeing these other DVDs ever be listed properly.

It comes down to this: Do you as a seller want to have to explain the possible differences to the buyer through a PM every time you get matched to sell something? Or would you rather there was actually more of an effort to differentiate these copies and their differences from eachother? If you're having trouble listing them, enter the UPC to find the actual DVD in the system. If you're having trouble finding the copy you want, there are plenty of DVD enthusaist websites out there that can help you determine which copies have the best picture quality, extras, and what not. Either way the Goozex movie trading system is obviously not perfect yet, but in my opinion it's already one of the best websites out there for buying DVDs, let alone selling them -- because in many cases you can pick and choose the EXACT copy you want, which CAN be a big deal for DVD enthusaists, and if anything would draw more of their traffic to the Goozex website....which means that this site COULD BE for hardcore collectors, and the way it's set up is perfect for them. I don't see that as a problem, I see that as a great feature.

(In a perfect world, I'd also like a way to request "any edition of this DVD" as one entry in your list, to avoid accidentally matching on two different copies of the same movie at once. But that's probably more work for less benefit.)

That would actually be a pretty interesting feature, I imagine. The problem is that this would still leave you open to getting a 4:3 copy of the movie, and if that's a big deal to you then that would probably piss you off.

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StilesCrisis replied on 11-03-2009 7:40 PM

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If you're extremely concerned about the difference between the Sensormatic release or the Canadian Movie Cash release, buy it new.

If it's missing booklets that came with it, that's not Full Package and you're justified in posting a negative if that's what you get.

If you get the wrong EDITION of the movie (e.g. you don't get the 2-Disc Special Edition, you get the single-disc release instead), that's not what I'm talking about at all.

I'm only concerned about the case where a release has multiple UPCs but from a consumer perspective is IDENTICAL--same movie, same encoding, same anamorphicness/widescreen-ness, same special features. And this seems to happen for 90% of the new releases on Goozex; there will be two entries, with different point values, and there's absolutely no difference from a consumer standpoint. Or you can get weird edge cases like a movie ONLY has the Canadian release on Goozex, which makes just as little sense.

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mrkekeru replied on 11-04-2009 2:56 AM

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StilesCrisis:

Surely Goozex must have a way to enter multiple UPCs into one product listing?