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RPG's for my mom
10-05-2009 7:49 AM by mrkekeru. 64 replies.
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mrkekeru:

I just have high standards. You should try it, you'll save time and money you would have otherwise wasted on mediocre games.

Uh huh.  So because I doubt your sweeping claim that every single JRPG made in the last ten years is crap, I don't have high standards.  You see, it's statements like this that make me disinclined to take anything you say seriously.

I can however agree with your assessment that Squarsoft/Enix has been stagnating since their runaway success with FF7, and that their output has become increasingly mediocre.

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Okay. You're on an obscure game trading website forum for cheap bastards talking about a genre a typical casual wouldn't hear of in a million years. It's safe to say you have high standards obviously. What I mean is I have unreasonably picky, elitist, unpleasable taste in games, and I don't enjoy them nearly as much as I should seeing how much time I spend playing them. How's that?

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mrkekeru:

Okay. You're on an obscure game trading website forum for cheap bastards talking about a genre a typical casual wouldn't hear of in a million years. It's safe to say you have high standards obviously. What I mean is I have unreasonably picky, elitist, unpleasable taste in games, and I don't enjoy them nearly as much as I should seeing how much time I spend playing them. How's that?

That's pretty much what I was thinking.

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mrkekeru:

Okay. You're on an obscure game trading website forum for cheap bastards talking about a genre a typical casual wouldn't hear of in a million years. It's safe to say you have high standards obviously. What I mean is I have unreasonably picky, elitist, unpleasable taste in games, and I don't enjoy them nearly as much as I should seeing how much time I spend playing them. How's that?

Fair enough, I'll back off. Smile

Everyone has their own opinions, and I respect that.  I usually don't get up people's grills about it, but occasionally something just rubs me the wrong way.

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mrkekeru:

Okay. You're on an obscure game trading website forum for cheap bastards talking about a genre a typical casual wouldn't hear of in a million years. It's safe to say you have high standards obviously. What I mean is I have unreasonably picky, elitist, unpleasable taste in games, and I don't enjoy them nearly as much as I should seeing how much time I spend playing them. How's that?

But legitimately, why do you bother playing games anymore when you hate everything released in recent memory? Including games like Half Life 2, which are considered by many to classics within their genres.

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If no one's recommended the Lunar games, I'll go for those. I also played FFIV and FFIX all the way through on my PSX, which would work for your PS2 of course. For the DC, I enjoyed Shenmue, though it's not as typical-she might as well. (I'm speaking from the perspective of a girl here, playing when I was in my 20's-I haven't been playing turn based RPGs as of late.) Grandia II wasn't too bad either. Evolution didn't do it for me, for some reason though.

No one's mentioned the Dragon Warrior series-those are really classics as well. Besides-my brother & sister in law translated a couple of them ; ) (actually, they did lunar as well, hahaha, full disclosure-I might be a bit biased)

Another one I really enjoyed was Valkyrie Profile, but I like the Norse mythology bit. Playstation RPGs are great for weird little things like that.

She also might like Katamari Damacy for the PS2-while not an RPG, for some reason games like that often appeal to the same mindset. Puzzles & RPGs go hand in hand.

If you have a dreamcast, you have tons of really fun weird games available, if you can mod it-the japanese games were really bizzare and fun. I used to write reviews for gameshark, so I got to play some of the stranger games, and there were some awesome ones out there that didn't require much english, if any.

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Heres a couple RPGS worth mentioning -- Suikodens 3 or 5 (or 2 if you can find it--good luck geting it here) and I heard Odin Sphere was good as well but I havent tried that one yet. Suikoden 4 was horrible though so stay away from it. 

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Suikoden I & II are awesome. III was good for awhile, but turns to absolute trash when you have to do their horrible strategy battles. Haven't played 5, but have no desire to after III and IV...

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mrkekeru:
I have unreasonably picky, elitist, unpleasable taste in games, and I don't enjoy them nearly as much as I should seeing how much time I spend playing them.

 

You don't make the Zero Punctuation reviews, do you?

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III was good for awhile, but turns to absolute trash when you have to do their horrible strategy battles.

Suikoden III is a great game even with the simple strategy battles.  I believe III is the only Suikoden game to make use of the trinity site system.  You got to see the same story from 3 perspectives for the first 3 out of 5 chapters.  If you accomplished certain tasks you could even view certain events from the villians' perspective after you completed the game.  It's all text though, which is good if you hate English voice acting.

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kevlar51:
But legitimately, why do you bother playing games anymore when you hate everything released in recent memory? Including games like Half Life 2, which are considered by many to classics within their genres.
I still enjoy games, just not so often, and never with the childlike amazement that I so miss. Every once in a while something promises to bring it back, but I get my heart broken.

And also, Doom is a classic FPS. Duke Nukem 3D is a classic. Half-Life 1 will probably be remembered as a clasic, but HL2 is just a fad. In 50 years if we still have time for games between using our sex-bots and world war 3, I doubt HL2 will be more than a footnote in history.

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You don't make the Zero Punctuation reviews, do you?
God no, they're funny sometimes, but that guy does a terrible job justifying his opinions, and I can't say I agree with him at all as to what makes a good game.

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The lunar games were great and have some in my list, but they will take a while to trade in.

I downloaded Suikoden from the PSN for myself.  I think I am halfway through.  I am at th epoint where I was trying to get some vase to drop from a monster so I could get some appraiser to join my party.  The vase never dropped.  I fought the right monsters for 4 hours (really) and it never dropped.  I have not played in a few months.  There are way to many characters for my taste.  I may go back and finish it after Tales of Phantasia (which I am playing now)

My wife loved Shenmue, but seeing as the series was never finished, I don't really want to offer it to my mom.

And for the record, I didn't like Half life 2, either.  I never played half life 1, though, and felt a little lost.

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And for the record, I didn't like Half life 2, either.  I never played half life 1, though, and felt a little lost.

It's fine to not like a game, but in another thread mrkekeru said he didn't like HL2, calling it another "generic shooter." I personally find that characterization hard to justify.

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You are a power armor wearing freedom fighter going against hordes of extradimensional/extraterrestrial aliens with the usual toolbox of guns (pistol, machine gun, shotgun, stonger pistol, gimmick gun, etc). You visit ruined cities and lots of tunnels with convenient collapses and explosions and other such setpieces. There's vehicles too, which brings it more in line with Halo and such. Granted, there's a cool physics gun and some puzzles to use it with, which may have been really novel when it came out (I didn't play it until 2007), but I wasn't impressed enough to see how it got anywhere near the amount of praise it was slathered with.

And I don't play games for the storyline (although its a nice touch to have one), but what really rubbed me the wrong way was how they on occasion locked you in a room with a bunch of characters I don't care about talking about something I was totally uninterested in. The way it was presented was pretty irritating too, for the first half it's QUICK Gordon Freeman, there's no time to explain, run while you still can you're our only WAUGHgaSDAFSAD *impaled*. Well there's a lot of thing I could complain about.

Anyway I don't think it's a bad game, it's just a decent pretty typical FPS with a bewildering amount of hype. Better than Haze by a longshot but not the Doom of our generation.

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Just as the original Half-Life influenced the FPS genre when it released at the end of the 90's, Half-Life 2 had a similar impact when it debuted in 2004.  Having played it when it first released for PC, I was very impressed with the game's physics, polish, decent storytelling (in a genre not known for storytelling) and emotive characters, which set a standard that many games have tried to emulate since.

I can understand it seeming like a "typical FPS" if you had played it several years after the fact, but if you compare Half-Life 2 to it's contemporaries, it was head and shoulders above the rest and IMO worthy of it's 2004 hype.

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