Wet -- PS3 Demo! Discussion...

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ElfShotTheFood replied on 08-31-2009 2:29 PM

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Kind of reminded me of Stranglehold crossed with Total Overdose.

Not bad, but it's trying too hard to be hip.

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crazeeseal replied on 08-31-2009 3:58 PM

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I played the 360 demo and I honestly have to disagree with the majority of you who give the game a thumbs up. I liked the style but couldn't get past the dated graphics and clunky gameplay. Reminded me a lot of the Wheelman demo (bullet time, bad graphics, mediocre gameplay). It could have been an awesome game but it needed a lot more polish.

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Hexpane replied on 08-31-2009 4:16 PM

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Well Stranglehold was awful, now I'm not sure I want to even bother installing this.

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chris100185 replied on 08-31-2009 4:47 PM

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Decrypded:

like the guy that left a negative for a game because he was bad at it. What was his name? Something to do with noobs and pwning.

by any chance do you have a link to that thread or the thread title I can stick in the search box to find that, sounds hilarious.

As for what I thought of the demo. I've played it 3 times, and each time it's grown on me more. The sandard gameplay isn't particurally original but it is intense and you feel awesome while doing it. The higway sequence was just pure awesome.  Yea the graphics aren't the best, but they aren't terribly ugly and the gameplay is what matters more, and that'sa  blast. Don't know if it's $60 awesome, but on sale or after a price drop its a certain grab for me.

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Decrypded replied on 08-31-2009 5:11 PM

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Hexpane:

DL'd the demo but have not installed it yet.

QT has made a LOT of horrible movies.  Reso Dogs was awesome, Pulp Fiction was good at the time, but it's been downhill ever since.  IB is a friggin remake and it's cheese

Jackie Brown - I dare anyone to watch this and not fall asleep

Kill Bill Vol 1. cheese JPN gore film rip off w/ some of the worst "martial arts" acting of all time.  Lucy Liu is about as believable as a Sword expert as Shia Labuff is as a guy who saves the world against giant robots.  Probably one of the worst sword fights on film of all time.  KB V2 just did not need to be made, the first one was boring enough, the 2nd one is just rubbish and hacky.

Well I (along with the majority of moviegoers and critics) disagree with you, but preference is preference.
(Every one of his movies are above 85% on rottentomatoes, with the exception of Grindhouse at 82%.)

Few inaccuracies though, if you're going to bash something you might want to know more about it.
Basterds is not a remake. It is 100% original, he just named it after the previous movie. The only thing they have in common is that they follow a "man on a mission" theme; however, IB digresses from this for most of the movie, as the main character is arguably Shoshanna (a female).
Also, Kill Bill was originally made as one movie, and the studios made him cut it. So... you can't really say they shouldn't have made a "sequel," as it isn't really. He is actually going to release his original version of it as one movie (called The Whole Bloody Affair).

Oh, and I accepted your dare, and passed. I didn't fall asleep quite easily. Sorry it wasn't GI Joe.

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solidsnake222 replied on 08-31-2009 7:13 PM

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I enjoyed the demo until I got stuck in a glitch.I tried wall jumping and I got stuck imbetween 2 walls.I couldent do anything at all but shoot my guns,which did no damage through walls.

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Hexpane replied on 08-31-2009 8:03 PM

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Decrypded:

Well I (along with the majority of moviegoers and critics) disagree with you, but preference is preference.
(Every one of his movies are above 85% on rottentomatoes, with the exception of Grindhouse at 82%.)

Few inaccuracies though, if you're going to bash something you might want to know more about it.
Basterds is not a remake. It is 100% original, he just named it after the previous movie. The only thing they have in common is that they follow a "man on a mission" theme; however, IB digresses from this for most of the movie, as the main character is arguably Shoshanna (a female).
Also, Kill Bill was originally made as one movie, and the studios made him cut it. So... you can't really say they shouldn't have made a "sequel," as it isn't really. He is actually going to release his original version of it as one movie (called The Whole Bloody Affair).

Oh, and I accepted your dare, and passed. I didn't fall asleep quite easily. Sorry it wasn't GI Joe

ROFL so he used the name of an old movie, but it's not a remake?   QT needs to lay off the hash.  I don't know what GI Joe has to do with it, but I assume you are trying to say I prefer big blockbuster air head movies to QT, that would not be accurate.  I hate GI Joe/Transformers 2 type movies.

However the fact that the BOMB Grindhouse gets 82% just makes me shake my head  I guess Ebert being a huge QT mark helps out his reviews .. gets him a lot of "100%" scores w/ the thumbs up.  For instance Jackie Brown gets QT a 100% score on metacritic.

You didn't fall asleep during JB, I guess you win that bet.  But even a die hard QT mark  like yourself, would you really say JB was a good movie?  Would anyone from goozex actually say they thought Jackie Brown was a good movie?  How about Grindhouse?  Does anyone here like that flick?  Leg gun on a motorcycle?

Would you really rate Lucy Liu is a good on screen martial artists?  The details around how KB got split into 2 films are known, it doesnt matter if it is 2 or 1 film.  It's boring, and has bad martial arts. Watch the Lucy Liu swordfighting again, it's laughably horrible.  They went on and on in the PR about how much she trained for this role and such, she's awful.  QT puts people in his films that he has romantic crushes on, he could not care less about acting skills.  His own acting when he shows up in his films is pathetic and campy.  Darryl Hannah was marginally more believable than Liu

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Vengeur replied on 08-31-2009 10:52 PM

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I played through the whole Wet demo - barely. I almost gave up on it. The second I was done with it I deleted it in disgust.

The game does not feel polished - player movement feels stiff and constrained. The special moves - sliding on the floor, wall running, jumping and shooting in slow motion - do not feel fluid at all. The game reminded me a lot of Stranglehold, and if anything felt even less polished (which, given the failings of Stranglehold, is saying a lot).

The freeway chase in the demo pretty much sums up my criticism of the game - the developers tried to create an over-the-top, beyond belief cinematic sequence, but the controls are so unresponsive and the action so frenetic and jerky that it completely ruins the whole effect.

It seems like all the games that set out to imitate the look and action of kung fu films always fail miserably at the controls, creating a game that feels clunky and doesn't look anywhere near as graceful and cool as the movies they are trying to pay homage to. If you didn't like Stranglehold, feel free to skip Wet - it's just more of the same.

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acsguitar replied on 08-31-2009 11:05 PM

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Thought it was ugly and boring. Played the Dirt 2 demo instead which is the awesomzomez

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emperorghaleon replied on 09-01-2009 2:05 AM

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@Hexpane

Wow...as a Quentin Tarantino enthusiast, I must say I am shocked at how little you seem to "get" his movies. I'm also simultaneously excited that Decrypded is seemingly as much of a fan as I am :D

Yes, Jackie Brown was an excellent movie. Very well written, very matter of fact performances: it was just a stellar watch. It also inspired me to go watch some blaxplotation films: Grindhouse had a similar effect with it's namesake's heritage.

Simply put, QT loves film. He is able to weave a comfortable amount of homage into this films, which I think is brilliant. He's subtly saying "these older films are better than mine, and I respect them". I LOVE that.

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JurassicUtility replied on 09-01-2009 7:26 AM

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...I probably shouldn't weigh in on this Tarantino conversation, but I can't resist. 

I've only really seen Pulp Fiction and Kill Bill Volumes 1 & 2, so I don't really think I can fully comment on Tarantino's virtue as a director.  But if his movies continue to follow the path Kill Bill  seemed to follow, I'd almost have to agree with Hexpane's opinion that his films have been going downhill.  I thought Pulp Fiction was a fantastic movie that stands on its own virtues - those being an interesting story, smartly written dialog, and a very charismatic cast of characters.  Kill Bill by comparison I found entertaining, but ultimately shallow.  I think I got the movies, as much as there was to get, but they just didn't really speak to me on a level that Pulp Fiction did (I did however enjoy the spaghetti western references in Kill Bill Vol. 2).

On a positive note, this conversation has made me realize I need to watch Reservoir Dogs.  A lot of people who's opinions I trust have said this is one of his best movies.  For some reason I never got around to actually seeing it.

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Kenny007 replied on 09-01-2009 7:52 AM

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Reservoir Dogs IS awesome.

While not as critical, I agree that QT's earlier films are best, and the downhill is somewhat evident to me.  I'm hoping IB is a return uphill in enjoyable movie quality for me.

Decrypted was winning me over with his stats until I heard Grindhouse got an 82%.  If it can manage that, then the system must be off...despite how good the other movies were, deserving of their scores.

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kevlar51 replied on 09-01-2009 8:34 AM

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It's strange to see Hexpane angrily criticizing something. Really out of character for him. I hope someone hasn't stolen his password.

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Decrypded replied on 09-01-2009 9:15 AM

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kevlar51:

It's strange to see Hexpane angrily criticizing something. Really out of character for him. I hope someone hasn't stolen his password.

He's just butthurt that some people have different tastes than him.

Anyhow, we should just leave it at what emperor said - he just doesn't "get it." He doesn't understand his casting, his homages, nor his writing right down to the naming of the movie.

Hexpane:

However the fact that the BOMB Grindhouse gets 82% just makes me shake my head

If you're referring to the movie being a bomb ratings-wise, then you are wrong. If you are referring to it being a bomb financially, you would be right, but what does that prove? If you're equating box office take to quality then you're saying Transformers 2 is one of the best movies of all time. Surely you can't be misinformed enough to think that movie quality is correlated to box office take, and not more to marketing?

And for those of you complaining about the Grindhouse rottentomatoes review score probably never saw it in the theaters. They were different movies back then (literally), as each of them was cut tighter by about 20-35 minutes, I think Death Proof was by 35. So much of the complaining about Death Proof was "too much talking," and actually much of that wasn't even there - and it was more like 40% action instead of 15-20%.

Kenny007:

Decrypted was winning me over with his stats until I heard Grindhouse got an 82%.  If it can manage that, then the system must be off...despite how good the other movies were, deserving of their scores.

Have you read other movie stats? Go and look, its pretty spot on.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/
For some reason Goozex is like a hotbed of hate for Grindhouse movies that isn't apparent elsewhere.

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Kenny007 replied on 09-01-2009 9:18 AM

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Ideally the leg gun chick is accountable for most of that score...because even halving the talking in Death Proof wouldn't have been enough. 

It was like an overly directionless chick flick with just enough violence to justify a male presence in the theater.

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