airlinesinc: MORE THAN 3 IS CONFUSING? HOW ABOUT USING THE STANDARD 3 OPTIONS AND A 4TH OPTION AS OTHER? OTHER COULD BE ANY COMBO AS LONG AS IT INCLUDES THE DISC...
MORE THAN 3 IS CONFUSING?
HOW ABOUT USING THE STANDARD 3 OPTIONS AND A 4TH OPTION AS OTHER?
OTHER COULD BE ANY COMBO AS LONG AS IT INCLUDES THE DISC...
Once users masterthe use of their caps lock keythey can handle four.
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madfigs: airlinesinc: MORE THAN 3 IS CONFUSING? HOW ABOUT USING THE STANDARD 3 OPTIONS AND A 4TH OPTION AS OTHER? OTHER COULD BE ANY COMBO AS LONG AS IT INCLUDES THE DISC... Once users masterthe use of their caps lock keythey can handle four. (An original haiku, © 2009 MAD FIGS Publishing, all rights reserved)
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Kenny007: madfigs: airlinesinc: MORE THAN 3 IS CONFUSING? HOW ABOUT USING THE STANDARD 3 OPTIONS AND A 4TH OPTION AS OTHER? OTHER COULD BE ANY COMBO AS LONG AS IT INCLUDES THE DISC... Once users masterthe use of their caps lock keythey can handle four. (An original haiku, © 2009 MAD FIGS Publishing, all rights reserved) I'd buy your book.
Right now, the system goes Disk only, Disk + manual, Full package, which I understand to mean if I request disk only, I am eligible to receive any of them.
If disk + case is tiered in above disk+manual, By requesting disk + manual, I may get matched up for Disk + case, when I WANT the manual. If it is flipped the other way ( case below manual ), I may end up with disk+manual when I WANT the case. As a buyer, just request full package if it matters that much.
I have three games that I bought used from Gamestop that I do not have the manual for. All of them came with a case, but only one of them has the original case and artwork. As a seller, I would list them as disk only and send the case anyway if I was matched up.
For my opinion, I would rather have the manual over the case if a choice had to be made. A quick lookup in a manual next to me is preferrable to running to the computer to look up how to do something online at 2:00 in the morning. I have DVD cases everywhere to put a game in, a Dilbert collector tin to hold GBA carts, and a SD Cart Wallet to hold the 3 DS games that I bought at the pawn shop cheap because they were loose.
I believe that adding another level, even if equal with no priority given, would either be ignored by most ( Still going full package ) or give people more reason to gripe and be pickier because their game is still not moving.
If you care that much about how the package looks rather than getting a game that plays, why are you dealing with a site where the product is distributed " sight unseen"?
Here's my take on things (not that anyone necessarily cares :) )
If in fact goozex decides to add a disc + case option (which i am FOR, by the way), I think that it should be on the same tier as disc + manual. Yes this would complicate things further, but it would be a good complication. The only reason I never request disc only is because I want the original case + artwork (this being more important) to have my game in (just MY preference). So, I am ALWAYS forced to request FP. But the guy on the other end who wants to get rid of his disc + case can only list it as disc only. I don't care about the manual: I just want the case.
What I don't understand is, why is there even a disc + manual option to begin with? Has anyone ever questioned this or have we just assumed that this is a logical tier to have? if someone wants the manual with the game aren't they going to also want a case with it? Or do people who ship out disc + manual only ship the disc and manual (literally) inside the envelope?
superman8921111: What I don't understand is, why is there even a disc + manual option to begin with? Has anyone ever questioned this or have we just assumed that this is a logical tier to have? if someone wants the manual with the game aren't they going to also want a case with it? Or do people who ship out disc + manual only ship the disc and manual (literally) inside the envelope?
Disc and manual is very useful.
It's not all that uncommon for PS1 and Dreamcast games, where some one may have damaged the case and back insrt, but saved the manual.
PC users trade that way to avoid the shipping costs associated with chipping the large box. Ditto for GBA games
ah i forgot. Its been a long time since I purchased a new pc game from the store (about 5 years) and i forgot that they now ship pc games in huge boxes. thanks for the reminder.
yo that exactly was on my mind when i first joined goozex but i forgot completly about it I was like wow they have disc+manual but not case+disc because many people loose their manual than their cases cause manual is just a paper but yea 100% agree on yes
I agree, it's probably more common to lose a manual than a case.
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I missed this response, so I guess I’ll quickly reply to it!
dtp11:What baffles me is how (supposedly) 21% of people actually think it would DEFINITELY make things too complicated AND/or NEVER have ANY games that are missing a manual and/or would NEVER want any!
Kenny007:Being in that 21%, I'll justify my position.Any game that came in a modern day DVD style case (PC or console) in my collection is fully stocked, so yes, I have no games that are missing a manual, and I imagine many others keep good care and track of their library as well.
Kenny007:The biggest issue though is the additional compliaction of Goozex with its addition. I don't maintain the Goozex matrix so I can't speak for them, but the mere addition of another condition should exponentially increase the load on the matchup system, which I'm pretty sure they HAVE mentioned before.
Kenny007:It's not simply ONE more possible condition that Goozex has to deal with, but a slew of additional combinations to deal with, not to mention all the IF/THEN statements that are probably involved with determining what condition ranks over what. Further complicating matters still would be any method that would allow for a level middle ground of D+C and D+M, forcing the system to not only find you a trader matchup, but then determine via your settings just how you feel about the DC/DM controversy, adjust accordingly, and then continue its search.
Kenny007:One additional side concern would be that with the inclusion of DC, there'd be even LESS of a reason to have anyone opt for requesting DO. With DC on the playing field, who's really going to want to settle for something that others may at least have the case for? If that DO lister can't even state that they have the case, what condition could it possibly be in? Further still, with the DO listing becoming even less attractive, DO listers may try to sneak their way into DC listings by just using a similar case and possibly printing cover art (it's easier to replicate cover art than a DVD Case sized manual), leading to further possible complaints.
And saying people with Disc Only may try to Print Cover art and put the game in a similar case is also pretty ridiculous! If they do that, it’s neutral (or negative if you received it) feedback. If someone doesn’t notice, that’s there problem. Should we remove the Full Package option because people who have the manual and disc can just replace the case with a similar one and print off the cover art? Of course not. Should we not add the Disc + Case option because of this? Of course not.
Kenny007:Simply put, I just don't see the need for it currently. People already seem to have a hard enough time listing things properly, and adding more options might further add to the frustration. FP is by far the most common requested form, and adding even more under it seems like a wasted effort, if not entirely unnecessary.
dtp11: Respectfully disagreed (along with about 72% of other Goozers)!
Respectfully disagreed (along with about 72% of other Goozers)!
You mean, 72% of Goozex forum users that give a crap.
I received a game from someone (requested full package) that came with just the disk plus case. I just put the game back up as disc only. I figure the case would be a bonus to the user, but I don't see any reason to have an actual D+C option.
I've read some of the responses in this thread and I still don't see a point. If you have the case and the disk then technically you just have the game and no manual which in an of itself is not something people would probably request over just the disc so I don't see any point to this option.
Renaissance 2K: dtp11: Respectfully disagreed (along with about 72% of other Goozers)! You mean, 72% of Goozex forum users that give a crap.
Kenny007:Therefore, in my case, and apparently 20+% others...
dtp11: Renaissance 2K: dtp11: Respectfully disagreed (along with about 72% of other Goozers)! You mean, 72% of Goozex forum users that give a crap. No, I mean "ABOUT" 72% of other Goozers, <insert "margin of error" percentage, based on unknown population of Goozex here>. There. It's a given that there is sampling error involved in the Goozex polls (wiki links provided for those not familiar with the terms used)
No, I mean "ABOUT" 72% of other Goozers, <insert "margin of error" percentage, based on unknown population of Goozex here>. There. It's a given that there is sampling error involved in the Goozex polls (wiki links provided for those not familiar with the terms used)
You missed the point.
Not every Goozex user uses the forums, and there are plenty of forum users that are so sick of these repetitive threads that they don't bother to read them, poll or no poll.
So, it's not 72% of Goozers. It's 72% of active Goozex forum users that bothered with the thread, which are almost guaranteed to be more passionate about the issue than the rest of the user base seeing as they bother to be active in the community.
The margin of error is one thing. The fact that it appeals to only a specific subset of users is another. You may as well hold the survey inside of a Whole Foods supermarket and only be taking samples from Goozer health nuts.
Honestly, the more I read through this discussion, the more I think there should just be a "Full Package" and a "Not Full Package" option.
Sellers with "Disc + Case" games want this so they can jump ahead in the queue ahead of the "Disc Only" sellers.
Buyers with "Disc + Case" want to get their games faster than the "Full Package" buyers, but want to get more for their money than the "Disc Only" people.
It's selfishness. It complicates so much to so little benefit. Try taking your "Disc + Case" game to Gamestop and try to talk them out of the "refurbishing" fee. You already get so much by selling your games here, and you honestly think it's not enough?
This is madness!
(Yea, yea, I know... THIS... IS... GOOZEX! How original.)