So i requested a game, Yakuza for PS2. Trade was accepted many weeks later no game. I leave negative feedback and the selled challenges it. Fine.
No deliveery Confirmation number was given however seller scans a copy of post office reciept and sends it to Goozex. negative gets reveresed and goozex tells me to check with my local post office. Great! the seller did send it according to the reciept however I still have no game?
Is it just me or should the seller be responsible for this, I think on this site Delivery Confirmation is a total must. Either way, seller got positive feedback, while I lose a precious 450 points and a trade. Seems preety unfair to me.
Out of curiousity, did you check with the post office to see if the game was there?
Oh, forgot to mention that, yes I did. And they said with out a confirmation number or tracking number there is nothing they can do.
I would email back to feedback@goozex - because without D/C all they can prove is that they went to the USPS and sent *something*, and all you have is your word you got nothing. But neither of you are 'newbies', so it seems that this might be the case of something getting lost / stolen in the mail.
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Actually, The receipt lists Zip code(Always) and address(sometimes) allot of times. It proves as much as DC.
It proves that the item was poid for to be shipped, but it does not prove I got it. What is to stop me fom going to the post office using there automated machines and then show goozex the reciept but I never sent the game?
Exactly, You could even just send an empty package to their neighbors down the street to show that it arrived in the same town. You'll been down a dollar or two but you'll still be up 1000 points. This is very tempting, but I'm not an ***.
I agree a receipt IS NO GOOD in my opinion, all it proves is you went to PO and bought something, he could of sent it and it gets returned to him because he deliberately intended on doing that or other possible scenario, i would email goozex again and point out this thread and see what they say
shintoki: Actually, The receipt lists Zip code(Always) and address(sometimes) allot of times. It proves as much as DC.
Ah - forgot that, and checked it and it is true. So while it is possible in major cities for the receipt to not mean much, I doubt that anyone sending to my zip code would be going to anyone but me ...
For me this is the 2/4 solution:
1/4 - someone says they shipped something
2/4 - they have a USPS receipt showing delivery
3/4 - they have completed delivery confirmation
4/4 - they have surveillance tapes of you in your robe getting the package from the postal worker and ripping it open and doing a victory dance while holding the game in the air.
txa1265:4/4 - they have surveillance tapes of you in your robe getting the package
I wasn't quite sure where you were going with that at first...
txa1265: For me this is the 2/4 solution: 1/4 - someone says they shipped something 2/4 - they have a USPS receipt showing delivery 3/4 - they have completed delivery confirmation 4/4 - they have surveillance tapes of you in your robe getting the package from the postal worker and ripping it open and doing a victory dance while holding the game in the air.
Seems good in theory...Unfortunately for Canadians, DC isn't cheap and our Custom forms don't have numbers on them like the ones in the US do. So, we are really only able to provide 1/4.
I don't think you have to prove delivery, but only that the game was shipped. The seller must have proved as much, which is why Goozex ruled the way they did.
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Black Fox Zulu:I wasn't quite sure where you were going with that at first...
... he he ... I can occasionally turn a phrase well enough to make it a worthwhile trip ...
I agree that shipping receipt is NOT = Delivery Confirmation and does not prove anything other than something was paid for.
However the post office response of "nothing we can do" is typical of poor customer service. "Nothing we can do" is the response of the lazy and unimaginative, there is *always something* you can do to try and help.
Except the receipt proves about the same as DC. DC doesn't not prove anything other then a package was delivered to the address. The contents or anything else are unknown. Its not like DC magically proves anything else. While Receipt proves the package was paid for and shipped to Address. Being honest, I could probably send a package with a piece of paper saying LOL with DC on it. And its no different then getting the game. You can't actually prove what was received and what wasn't.
In a way the Receipt is better since I can also get price from it. The vast majority of PS2 games, 360, and so on. Will have the exact same price cost to ship(Give or take a few cents). It shows consistency at the very most.
shintoki:Except the receipt proves about the same as DC. DC doesn't not prove anything other then a package was delivered to the address. The contents or anything else are unknown. Its not like DC magically proves anything else. While Receipt proves the package was paid for and shipped to Address. Being honest, I could probably send a package with a piece of paper saying LOL with DC on it. And its no different then getting the game. You can't actually prove what was received and what wasn't.
DC proves that a package arrived at the correct address so if you are the one recieving the game and you get an empty package or the wrong game you can leave negative feedback as you got the package. With just a reciept it doesnt prove much other than you mailed something. There is no proof that you mailed it to the right address or even the right person. In this case the reciept shows that something was shipped somewhere and since it does not give the address and is not confirmed delivered we have no idea what was mailed and who it was mailed to. In my opinion a reciept from the post office means absolutely nothing as really it doesnt give the buyer any security that their game was even shipped to them.
If a reciept is considered proof of mailing then any joe scammer can get matched for a 1000pt game and instead of sending it out they go to the post office pack up a empty dvd case pay the couple bucks to mail it to lets say the buyers neighbour and then just show goozex the reciept saying ya I mailed it heres proof give me my points. At least if they use delivery confirmation in this case we would see that they sent it to the wrong address.