The Joker: Hardcover Graphic Novel ***SPOILERS***

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Blackcoyote Posted: 11-13-2008 12:19 PM

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Anybody else read this?

I bought into the hype (IGN 9.8 review) and hell if it isn't just one of the most incomplete and confusing books I've ever read.  X-Men step aside...there is a new no-makes-sense book in town.

Here's a review I pretty much agree with:

http://www.entertainmentbuff.com/joker/

***SPOILERS BELOW***

The Good:

• I got it for $11 instead of $20
  
• The focus on the Joker and his thinking is nice idea....in theory...
• Some cool deaths...I guess (but how exactly do you skin a man in a few minutes backstage at a stripper club?)
• Keeps in line with the real world perspective that Nolan uses (nice touch on Croc and Penguin)

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PSWii60 Elite replied on 11-13-2008 2:29 PM

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Have you been visiting the chat room under an alias?

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Blackcoyote replied on 11-13-2008 2:34 PM

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ummm...no

but thanks for an attempted hijack.

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PSWii60 Elite replied on 11-13-2008 2:41 PM

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LIAR!

but I shall leave your thread for now, since its mafafu's job to thread jack

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PSWii60 Elite replied on 11-13-2008 6:50 PM

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PSWii60 Elite:

LIAR!

but I shall leave your thread for now, since its mafafu's job to thread jack

 

My apologies sir coyote

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Blackcoyote replied on 11-13-2008 9:53 PM

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lol np...

I take it nobody has read this book...which is a good thing!  Why do I suffer alone?

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mafafu replied on 11-14-2008 6:33 AM

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Some wierdo from the chatroom apparently read it, but he acted too strange for us to find out his opinion of the novel.

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cheeznrice replied on 11-14-2008 7:22 AM

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I was half asleep when I saw this thread.  I wasn't too sure why BlackCoyote would be interested in clown porn, but I'm glad to see it's 'hardcover'.

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T9X Killa replied on 03-24-2009 12:57 AM

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Call me old fashioned,but I still think the best protrayel of the joker was in the Killing Joke story.Absolute classic.Still havent seen any joker cannon to top it.

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Hexpane replied on 03-24-2009 11:44 AM

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T9X Killa:

Call me old fashioned,but I still think the best protrayel of the joker was in the Killing Joke story.Absolute classic.Still havent seen any joker cannon to top it.

TKJ was indeed the top of the food chain for any villian backstory and one of the finest graphic novels ever made writing and art.

However I am borderline nerd/offended that the OP is bringing up the TDK movie.  TDK movie has nothing to do w/ the comics.  The timeline in TDK is bogus and non-cannon.

The stuff about how this GN is "realistic like the movie" ... the realism of the movie is borrowed from things like TKJ.

TDK was not a bad movie, and Heath was awesome.. but please don't consider it your frame of reference for anything Batman.  TDK was more like James Bond + The Joker.  Nolan's Batman is barely a batman at all and Bale plays Wayne as a James Bond type.

Even the action in TDK was over the top bond style, way too techno batman.

I've also read this TJ graphic novel.  And while yes the IGN review is way too high (aren't all their reviews?) Some of my fav parts about this were the loose ends and unanswered questions.   The idea that you can't really get too deep into the joker's head and no one really knows his motivations is exactly what makes him the joker.

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Decrypded replied on 03-24-2009 11:47 AM

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T9X Killa:

Call me old fashioned,but I still think the best protrayel of the joker was in the Killing Joke story.Absolute classic.Still havent seen any joker cannon to top it.

Most comic nerds agree that TKJ is much, much better than the above graphic novel.

If you want a Joker centered comic coyote, read that.

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Feely replied on 03-24-2009 12:01 PM

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Blackcoyote:

lol np...

I take it nobody has read this book...which is a good thing!  Why do I suffer alone?

Bummer, sounds like it could have been great.  I hope someone eventually takes a concept like this and does it right.

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Hexpane replied on 03-24-2009 12:05 PM

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Decrypded:

T9X Killa:

Call me old fashioned,but I still think the best protrayel of the joker was in the Killing Joke story.Absolute classic.Still havent seen any joker cannon to top it.

Most comic nerds agree that TKJ is much, much better than the above graphic novel.

If you want a Joker centered comic coyote, read that.

Why not read both?  TJK is a backstory/side story.   This new one is a different story.  Certainly worth $11 IMO, but just temper your expectations.  This is more like some random dudes perspective on his adventures w/ the joker.